Kevin Nash Chat Transcripts
Kevin Nash on  WCW Live, March 11, 1999.

Jeremy Borash: Big Sexy, welcome to the big show.
Kevin Nash: Hey.
Jeremy Borash: How's it going?
Kevin Nash: Good.
Jeremy Borash: Good, thanks for joining us.
Mark Madden: Hey Kev, how you doing?
Kevin Nash: Good, long time no hear'sky.
Jeremy Borash: Kevin, tell us what you're doing tonight. I know you have the night off, relaxing?
Kevin Nash: Ah, just got done doing a provocative lap dance for a few of the neighbor ladies. Had a little, ah tupperware party. Went over and did that.
Mark Madden: Hey, you gotta make extra money.
Kevin Nash: 40 bucks is 40 bucks, you know?
Mark Madden: That's right, not doubt about that and it doesn't feel any better than when you pull it out of you G-string, take it from me, I know.
Jeremy Borash: Oh, you know this Mark?
Mark Madden: Absolutely.
Jeremy Borash: Bob Ryder is very quiet for some reason. We won't go there. WCW.com's phone number 877, or Ah, WCW live phone number is 877-wcw-live, and of course the chat room. Bob, what are people asking about Big Sexy right now in the chat room?
Bob Ryder: One of the first questions was to ask Kevin Nash about Chris Jericho's situation.
Kevin Nash: About the Chris Jericho situation, what, did something happen to him?
Bob Ryder: Yeah.
Jeremy Borash: No, what is the situation in WCW as far as his future, or maybe lack there of.
Kevin Nash: Ah, do you want my opinion on the situation?
Jeremy Borash: What do you think should happen?
Kevin Nash: Ah, what do I think is going to happen?
Jeremy Borash: Either, or, let's hear what you want to happen or what....
Kevin Nash: What I want to happen, I mean, in having any kind of creative control, any kind of input in a situation when you're doing story line, you of course want talent to write storyline around. I think he's one of the brightest pieces of young talent in the business right now, so from a selfish stand point of course I want him to stay. From a business stand point I definitely don't want him to go on the other side cause he's gonna hurt us. What's gonna happen is up to Eric Bischoff and Chris Jericho. If I could write him a check, I would. I guess I could write him one and I might write him one for the 40 dollars that I made tonight as a matter of fact.
Jeremy Borash: You got the extra change, you keeping working at it, doing those tupperware parties, who knows.
Mark Madden: One thing I want to point out and I think says a lot about Kev's believe in Jericho and really Kev's desire to make the show as good as he can make it is. There are some elements in WCW who with Jericho unsigned and his contract set to expire in several months who would prefer that Jericho not be featured, but I mean basically Kevin and the other bookers know Jericho's a talent and they want to do the best tv possible, so he's on tv.
Jeremy Borash: A lot of people been asking us all night Kevin, about Bret Hart and your feeling toward him and his future in WCW. Care to elaborate on any of that?
Kevin Nash: I mean I don't have any problems with Bret on a personal level. I mean even though yeah he never did put anybody over in New York when we were there. But what happened is, he was brought in, he was mishandled. He was turned and back turned and his story lines were incomplete so it's basically a situation where Bret's basically starting with scratch with us right now and the only thing that we really have that Bret brings to the table right now is of course any time he goes out there and works he's a great worker, he also has his name so until we can figure what, you know it's one of those deals where everybody says "You have to do something with Bret Hart. You have to do something with Bret Hart, you have to do something with Bret Hart" and I of course agree from a stand point of just what he's being paid you have to do some with him. But at the same time what do you do with him and do you make another, do you hurry up and come up with something quickly and make another wrong decision to add to the fifteen that they've made here so far or do you let him get another couple guys over, let him heat up another couple guys, you know. Ie at Booker T, give you some good tv in the mean time, and wait till you come up with the right thing to do for the guy and I think, you know, if he says he's gonna be here for the long term, he's gonna be here for three years you know, anybody that's been in
this business knows that all you need to do is they try to bury me for the better part of two and a half years here but I went over at World War 3 and I beat Goldberg, and I would have not handed the belt to Hogan in the story line (yeah I would like to play cars with you son). But I mean, In two or three months I was as hot as I'd been in a long time cause the story line, I mean it's a soap opera and you can make anybody hot, you can do anything you want as long as you have the talent to carry it as far as in interviews and in actual ring presence and work so there's no panic there. If he's as great as everybody says he is and I hope he is, then there's not a problem. All you have to do is plug him into the right story line and he'll be what he has been in the past. But in the meantime when you don't have an underneath card of guys that mean anything, you gotta make guys mean something, especially with seven hours of live tv being booked every two weeks Jeremy Borash: Mark, I know you got a question about that.
Mark Madden: What, about Bret, no I agree with Kevin, I mean basically everything that's been done with Bret has been rushed and that's why it hasn't worked so why would you rush in there again?
Jeremy Borash: Bob, what's going on in the chat room right now?
Bob Ryder: A lot of people asking about your website Kevin and you've apparently asked for ideas from fans on possibly how Sting should come back and they want to know how those ideas are coming around.
Kevin Nash: Why is it I can't hear anybody? Why, I mean there's no. I can I get more vibes to my phone?
Jeremy Borash: Sure I can. Ah, I'm cranking it up as hot as it can go. Bob's question is about your website and taking the suggestions on Sting.
Kevin Nash: Ok. You know a friend of mine that works on my website, along with me and another lady, probably sent me, and I'm not kidding, probably six-hundred pages of ideas that the people had sent out and on the way from Boston to Phoenix last night, or the night before, Tuesday night I read probably half of them and talked to Madden about it actually and actually there were three ideas in there that were incomplete ideas as far as what you really need to make them work on a television program long term, but there were at least ideas that sprung some ideas in my mind. So to the people that took the time to elaborate and put down some ideas I appreciate it because you know nobody has all the answers, nobody has the best ideas and there's no such thing as a bad idea. You know, it maybe just doesn't work at this point so to the people that wrote in I say thanks and to three people out there, they're gonna get the Big Sexy keychain and tupperware ensemble for any ideas used on the air.
Jeremy Borash: All right, let's take some phone calls for Kevin Nash. Let's go now to Mike in Florida. Mike, you're on with Big Sexy.
Mike: Hey Kev, how you doing tonight?
Kevin Nash: Good, how you doing?
Mike: All right. I just had a quick question for you one of my friends was asking me. If Hollywood Hogan, if he does turn to be more like a face, more like a hero (a) will he still have a good repoir with you and (b) will he still be part of the NWO?
Kevin Nash: Well, um, it just depends, I mean like anything else, I think what you basically do is you kind of throw some emotion out there. Throw a situation out and see basically, you know at this point, we're being hammered pretty good by these guys so you don't want to go too far out on the story line where you can't come back so right now, basically what we're trying to do is get a feel on people are gonna react to certain things, at the same time trying to use a little bit of intrigue, a little bit of mystery because we're so handcuffed on using some of the other elements. We can't use anything that's too shocking, so you know I think that, I mean the biggest problem is we don't have a lot of... looking at Wrestling in general. There's a lot of young talent out there, guys who know how to be real baby face and guys who really know how to be heels. You have a match and the guy's gotta be this, this, and this, it would have been really great and a lot of times you know I think it's harder to be a baby face now than it is to be anything. Everybody's gray matter at it cause nobody wants to go out on a limb and be the hero because you get booed, so you know there's no such thing anymore as a pure baby face.
Jeremy Borash: Mike, thanks for your call. Let's go to Art now in Colorado. You're on with Kevin Nash.
Art: Hey Kev, how you doing tonight?
Kevin Nash: Good.
Art: Hey Kev, listen I think with Sting, I think it's gonna be kind of tough cause you've done kind of most everything with him before and I think and you know the fans of today, the wrestling fans are demanding of so much and I think they want to see something other than the same old things. I think with Sting, if you do anything with him he may have to go full-blown heel and I think what it does is it sets up some great matches. You know if he's Sting - Goldberg, Sting - Page, even a Sting - Hart because that's something that number one I don't think fans expect, and number two you don't know who wins the match when you put guys in there and I think it's one thing as you guys look at trying to regroup and trying to change some things I say as a fan, do two things for me. You surprise me and think outside the box a little bit.
Kevin Nash: Right, I mean I've talked long and hard, you know the only thing that hasn't been done with Sting is a heel turn. But at the same time, just because it hasn't been done, maybe there's a reason it hasn't been done. You know and I've got to look at those things and I've got to make sure with the way his life has changed as far as his personal life, if he's comfortable in that role. If he wants his children to view him as that on tv cause I know that he's changed spiritually and in his outlook in life and I don't want him playing a part in my motion picture that he's not comfortable playing.
Art: Yeah cause the more that it's really part of him in real life I'm sure the better the character overall.
Kevin Nash: Absolutely.
Art: Yeah. Hey one other quick thing and then I'll let you go. I think the other thing as a fan the other night you had Jericho and I think it was Lizmark in the dog collar match and I thought it was a great change of pace but I thought Jericho was just matched with the wrong guy because it was a predictable outcome. I think if it's a Jericho....
Kevin Nash: The reason we put that out there was Jericho's gonna wrestle Saturn in a dog collar match at the pay per view and once again, if you're a fan from back in the day or even ten years ago, yeah you know the dog collar matches but a lot of the people that are now wrestling fans have been wrestling fans for six months. So the dog collar match to them is two guys come out with a hart's dog collar thing on, I mean they don't know what it is so basically what I did was show them what icing was. If they hadn't been to a hockey game before.
Mark Madden: Art, thanks for your call. Hey Kev, before we take the next call, two new ideas for Sting by the way. One is a really bad guy who won't get into a limo with a dirt sheet writer.
Kevin Nash: Ok.
Mark Madden: and Canadian hero.
Kevin Nash: Ah, I like him as a Canadian hero.
Jeremy Borash: I think you're onto something there Mark, I really do. Let's go to Angie, you're on with Kevin Nash.
Angie: Hello Kevin.
Kevin Nash: Hi.
Mark Madden: What's going on?
Angie: I was just wondering if you plan on coming to your chat room anytime soon?
Kevin Nash: I'm having a real hard time hearing for some reason.
Mark Madden: She asked if anytime you're planning on going to your chat room on your website.
Kevin Nash: Yeah, I was actually going to couple of weeks ago but I suffered a almost a JFK head injury. I am, I'm gonna get on that thing, I'm gonna try and get on it maybe this weekend if I can hookup with.... My whole problem is I'd love to get on it but in order for me to type answers, I mean it would be like...so I gotta get somebody who can type the damn thing.
Angie: You have to because I'm a guard on there, and I'm telling you the people are waiting to see you.
Mark Madden: You're a guard on it?
Angie: I'm a guard, I'm a moderator for his chat room.
Kevin Nash: If you're a guard, who the hell do we have as power forward right now?
Mark Madden: That would be me.
Kevin Nash: We're just not scoring very well.
Mark Madden: Angie, thank you so much for your call.
Angie: Thank you.
Mark Madden: Wendi, you know we're getting a lot of ladies calling in for you Kevin.
Kevin Nash: That's a good thing.
Mark Madden: Wendi, from Kentucky you're on with Kevin Nash
Wendi: Hi Kevin
Kevin: Hello.
Wendi: How are you?
Kevin Nash: I'm fine. How are you?
Wendi: I'm calling to see, how the things are going with the Wolfpac and you know, what's going on there. What are you going do about David Flair and you know, all that kind of stuff.
Mark Madden: Thanks for your call Wendi. David Flair first of all, where is that gonna go?
Kevin Nash: Well, I mean, I got a couple different angles and different ideas and see like if I give all this stuff out there's gonna be no reason to watch the show, there's not enough people watching as is. So one thing is, I've actually thought about putting him on loan to Vivid video for six months. I think that was actually Mark's idea.
Jeremy Borash: I'm surprised Mark would come up with an idea like that.
Mark Madden: Come up with a movie with David and Mrs. Robinson. Maybe the Graduate part 69.
Jeremy Borash: Wow, I'm sure that's something we'd be lining up to see. Let's go to Angel in Pittsburgh, you're on with Kevin Nash.
Angel: Hey, you remember me?
Kevin Nash: Angel?
Angel: I was on a little bit earlier. I got a question for Mark Madden,number one.
Kevin Nash: Oh
Jeremy Borash: Mark, you there?
Mark Madden: Yeah. Go ahead.
Angel: Ok, I have one question for you. I was listening to you last night with that Raven deal going on, he said something about getting in contact with them later this week. Could you happen to know if he was gonna be at the Pittsburgh show, April 28?
Mark Madden: I don't know if Scotty is gonna be there or not, no.
Angel: Ok, would you be able to find out and maybe let us know later on down the road?
Mark Madden: Yeah.
Jeremy Borash: Ok, thanks for your call Wendi. We do appreciate it.
Mark Madden: That girl dated Kidman by the way.
Jeremy Borash: Really?
Kevin Nash: Who hasn't dated Kidman?
Jeremy Borash: I don't know.
Kevin Nash: I dated Kidman for three weeks and didn't even know it till I got like a Whitman sampler.
Jeremy Borash: How was he? Was he a good guy, a good kisser?
Kevin Nash: Na, not a whole lot of passion for a cruiser weight.
Jeremy Borash: Bob, what's going on in the WCW live chat room?
Bob Ryder: A lot of people asking questions Kevin about all the new vignettes you been putting on the show and the first hour in particular on Nitro this week.
Jeremy Borash: Yeah, a lot of people been asking about that first hour.
Kevin: A lot of what?
Jeremy Borash: A lot of people been asking about the first hour of Nitro, on Monday that we saw.
Kevin Nash: The reason I did that was to show that no matter what we do in the first hour we're gonna pretty much do the same number. I think the week before we had two matches and we did 5.1. Last week we had no matches, everything was taped, we did 4.9. The thing is the wrestling fans will watch basically anything that we put on eight to nine cause they're waiting for Raw to start. That's the major problem we have right now. So I kind of wanted to make that point and I think what we should do is, we should run, run hard from eight to nine, you know. Run an angle and I'm gonna give this a shot, I may even give this a shot on Monday run an angle from eight to nine and give like a main event at nine o'clock and see if we can't win the first quarter hour from them from nine to 9:15. And then slowly build it where we maybe grab another one so if we're giving them quality and they know we're gonna give them quality from eight to nine we may do a 6.2, 6.3 the first hour. They do a 6.3 in the last hour we split the middle hour and in the ratings wise we're doing the same things they are.
Jeremy Borash: From a personal stand point how important is it for you to beat Roth?
Kevin Nash: From a personal stand point?
Jeremy Borash: Yeah
Kevin Nash: You know I mean, I have to look at things and say right now, I mean I think it's momentum more than anything right now. I think we've had shows in the past 12 weeks that have been better than their shows but rating wise it's not gonna dictate that cause I think one of the things that hurt us is... I was reading on my web page everybody was saying "if you guys are going G-rated I'm just not gonna watch you" (so its only out there that we're pulling back, their going forward). They're doing this, you know Sable's on the cover of Playboy. I mean right now if I'm a seventeen-year-old kid you know, I want the forbidden fruit. It's gonna take some time, it's gonna take a while but I'm in no way pressured to.... you know the biggest problem we have here for so long is on Nitro they strip mined its territory. I mean, that's always been...... because number one, Hogan's contract is incentive related so it's number related on TVs, it's number related on Pay per views and if he has any monstrous push on which way we go which he did for a long time then you're gonna see hotshoting, you're see things that do more for numbers than they do for other reasons because his contract was laid out that way. So as far as I'm concerned it may take a year to turn this around, it may take eighteen months but we have so much talent and we have the time. You just have to take your time, don't panic, don't hotshot, come up with ideas. Create the underneath talent to mean something, create the middle talent to mean something so every time a guy comes down people know who they are and people at least have some kind of reaction to them emotionally, whether they like them or hate them but I think the major thing we have right now is half our crew comes down and the crowd is indifferent to them.
Jeremy Borash: How do you change that? Is it that easy of a process?
Kevin Nash: No, it's not, the process takes time it's vignettes, it's interviews, it's things that let everybody know what each character is. It's like a movie, it's like a movie or a book, you know? You don't just introduce somebody in a book and not give them background or description or something so that when at least some person knows who the hell this person is. I think you have to do the same thing with a television show. It's not wrestling anymore, it's not grab a hold it's a male demographic action packed soap opera that happens on Monday and Thursday's for us and its gotta look good that way.
Jeremy Borash: Tony in North Carolina, you're on with Big Sexy Kevin Nash.
Tony: How you doing tonight guys?
Jeremy Borash: Good thanks.
Tony: Kevin I wanted to say I really liked your little commentary on the state of the world on your website the other night. I thought that was really intelligent I hope it actually gets some notice.
Jeremy Borash: I've seen it all over the web. A lot of people looking at that.
Mark Madden: yeah, wasn't it published it in the Miami Herald somebody said. Bob?
Jeremy Borash: Bob, did you hear anything about that?
Bob Ryder: Yes, it was on the Miami Herald on the 4th of this month. They did publish it in its entirety
Jeremy Borash: Kind of summarize that for us Kevin if somebody hasn't seen that before.
Kevin Nash: I mean to put it... to put it in capsulation so I don't have to go over the whole thing. I'll take my house for example. If I'm in my house, I have the control in my hand so if that tv show's on, it's on because I want it on, not because anybody.... I mean I run my house, I watch my kid. Everyone all of a sudden says "oh my god wrestling has influenced my kid, where have I been, I never saw it coming." That's because your probably bombed sleeping it off in the back in the back bedroom. I mean wrestling is not the decay of civilization as we know it. It's not the 4th Reich. You know, wrestling is wrestling and I think people know that it is. It's a form of mindless entertainment and it's on a couple of times a week and you know, it's like going to see Water Boy, you know it's not something where you're going to leave and say "God, that was really lifting." I don't know Water Boy almost touched as much as The Dead Poet's Society.
Jeremy Borash: So you're saying we're not trying to change the world here.
Kevin Nash: No all we're trying to do is make ....everything else is two to three hours a week escapism. Since everybody else seems to use mind altering
drugs to do that maybe wrestling's a better alternative.
Jeremy Borash: Mark Madden, what do you think of that? And I'll let you fire a few questions.
Mark Madden: Oh I agree with Kevin's column. I mean, I think a lot of people like Phil Mushnik and the New York Post are just too damn self-righteous and serious about Pro wrestling. I mean to me you know, in your house Kevin's right, you have control of your tv set. If you don't want your kids to watch it turn it off. If it offends you turn it off. I mean everybody has choices to make and I think to blame all the ills of society on pro wrestling is absurd. There's certainly a lot worse out there.
Kevin Nash: It's like these X rated areas in town and stuff like that, I mean these people say "oh my good and this and that." Well you know if you're not a freak, then you don't freak with them. I mean, it's just like anything else. This is suppose to be a country that was built on freedom of speech and on the right to be an individual and yet every time that somebody wants to anyway express something that the other person doesn't believe in it's like give me a break. We have freedom of speech, you know. If Vince McMahon, if you were saying that Vince McMahon decided that during that 2-hour time span that that's what they want to put out, they have that right to put it out and as American's you have the right not to watch it. Right now it looks like 6.4% of the rating are watching it. Almost a 10 share watched it on Monday night.
Jeremy Borash: That's unreal. I mean when you started out in the sports did you ever see yourself in this role and how successful wrestling is?
Kevin Nash: I mean I think you can only dream of that. You know, to me you used to hear all the old-timers say, you know we'd be in the cars, drinking a few cold ones going from town to town, you know there would be 600 people in the building when you left, it didn't really matter if, you know to lit yourself on fire and the guys would be saying, "yeah, back in the day and then Harley came in with Flair and they popped the territory or this guy came in and he popped the territory" and I always thought God, you know it'd be nice to be able to pop a territory. I felt that when Scott and I came to WCW we popped that territory.
Jeremy Borash: It was an amazing couple of months when you first jumped on the scene. Bob.
Bob Ryder: Kevin, one thing I wanted to ask you, there's been a lot written in some of the news letters and a couple of the hotline updating lately have said there's some kind of conspiracy going on, some conspiracy theories that you and Hogan are for some reason are trying to intentionally run WCW into the ground and you're just gonna leave and go back to WWF. Any comments on those people and how they come up with those ideas.
Kevin Nash: Well, number one, I've got almost three years left on my contract so that's like saying I'm on the Titanic and I've basically welded myself in my cabin and I've just set off a depth charge. I mean....
Bob Ryder: I like that.
Kevin Nash: As far as I'm concerned, I mean people... all these armchair quarterbacks you know for example this Sting thing. Everybody out there that thinks they're so smart and that they can do this, "I can book and I could do that." I read for six hours, I read people's comments and such brilliant things as "I think Sting would look good in his old hair but not like a crow but he didn't come down that's old, I really don't know what I'd do thanks for listening to me." I was taking to Madden earlier, it's like everybody has ideas and then they say it and they think about for 45 minutes and then say, "oh God wait, change that and let me change that to this." Once it's on the air, it's on the air, there's no changing it. So I mean everybody has these great ideas but would you be willing to put your kahunas on the line and put it on television? 99.9% of the people including probably 100% of the guys in the locker room everybody's got a good idea but nobody wants the pressure to try and make it work. What happened was Eric Bischoff came to me and he says, "You've been the loudest complainer that we don't know what we're doing here." He goes do you just want to complain, or do you actually want to help?" And I said, "I wanna help, I'll help I don't have a problem." I mean I've never booked before. I gave Vince ideas on story lines but I've never booked before so this is a learning process for me.
Mark Madden: Is it something you wanted to do from the start or did you see yourself in this position?
Kevin Nash: I know I'm creative. I know I'm as creative, if not more creative than 99% of the people that do this. I know that I can walk into a room in the middle of a conversation when people are stuck on something and pretty much give them an answer, a high spot or parts of a finish quicker than most people can. I mean, I think I see things different from lots of people do. I think I see as this as a television show. I think that eventually that the production will get better and that wrestling be become almost like a First and Ten that used to be on HBO, or it will be a sitcom or an adventure show with wrestling involved in it.
Mark Madden: Interesting.
Bob Ryder: Kevin, how difficult is it to be involved in such a way with the creative side of the business while still being an active wrestler?
Kevin Nash: It's very difficult because any time, I mean there's a lot of times that I feel that I could contribute more on the other side of the camera and in the actual ring itself, but then you don't want anyone saying, "well he's just pushing himself, oh my God." So I mean, from that stand point like I've basically taken the Harvey Keitel. I'm gonna come in for five minutes and you know, do my little scene and get out of there.
Mark Madden: How much from your perspective is it if you're on our team, be on our team, if you're not, you're not and maybe your example with your match with Rey Mysterio Jr.
Kevin Nash: I mean, the other thing is I go out and do a job for a guy and then I read in some kids column that someone handed me the other day that says "well Nash did it at Mysterio because anybody else that would beat him that was of higher caliber," that people, I mean that nobody would believe that Rey beat him so it really didn't set an example. To me it was the same thing I did when I worked with Shawn Waltman in New York you know. Shawn was going out there every night and Shawn was a talented guy but these guys who had no talent could do that just happened to be big would just happen to go out there and try and gobble the kid up. So I went out there and bumped my ass off for him and all of a sudden, Kid would said well Diesel bumped for me, I can't see why you can't bump for me. Well eventually what it does, it points out who the marks are and who the guys, you know I don't think it's about being on the team, it's just about not being a mark. You're an entertainer, I mean when I go out there I know that you can say what you want to about the Rey Mysterio match but when I was out there that night it was electric. People have a good time for nine minutes the people watched what we did and they popped when we wanted them to pop. We controlled 20 thousand people. That's a power nine minutes of your life. If you can do that with any consistency you know how to work. (Whether the guys say ucho baracho from Japan) is the best guy in the world or not. I mean there's guys who know how to work and there's guys who don't know how to work. People say Hogan doesn't know how to work, but he does know how to work, cause the final work is making money, and he's made the most. That's the real work of the business. So what if( ocbochee Mogama) from FWA is considered by Meltzer to be the best worker in the business, the guy makes 60 bucks. I mean what's it do for him. So, I mean there's so many aspects of the work and Hogan is the king of the manipulation, and the king of making sure he gets paid, and I've learned a lot from him.
Jeremy Borash: Mark, fire away.
Mark Madden: Well, I mean the bottom line is that there's a lot of guys in this sport that are considered excellent workers per say that have never drawn a dime in their lives and never made a dime in their lives. I mean not to denigrate anybody in particular but there aren't too many better workers today in WCW today than Billy Kidman and Juventud Gurerra and I love watching both of them, you know dearly, and this isn't to insult them in anyway but give me two arenas equal size and on opposite street corners from Juvi vs. Kidman in one and put Hogan vs. Nash in the other and I guarantee I know which one will fill up first. A lot of people try to make this business into something that it was never intended to be. They try to make it into an art form, with all their five star matches and with all the Japanese style wrestling that may work over there but wouldn't draw a dime over here. And like I said, they try and make it something it's not. Executing a good match to where people pop for it where they want to see it again and pay to see it again, that's art. But as far as it being estactically something you want to be perfect in I beg to differ. Whatever works is what works and that's what you have to strife for. Whatever will get people into the arena, whatever will get them to watch tv, whatever will get them to buy the pay per view. Whatever works, works and obviously Hogan, hey I'm not crazy about the guy, that's not a secret but if I have to start a promotion from scratch he'd be one of the top five draft picks I'd take. I mean he draws money and that's the name of the business.
Jeremy Borash: Kevin, who are your favorite guys in the business? Give me five, overall.
Kevin Nash: You mean if I had to start a company? Everybody's healthy?
Jeremy Borash: Yeah.
Kevin Nash: I'd start with Shawn Michaels.
Mark Madden: Wildcat Willy, Black Nitro girl.
Kevin Nash: Black nitro girl, Doug Dillinger. Um, my second choice would be Steve Austin, my third choice would be Scott Hall, my fourth choice right now would probably be The Rock and my fifth choice would be Torrie Wilson.
Jeremy Borash: I'm with you on that. Mark.
Mark Madden: Torrie Wilson is gonna be bigger than the biggest woman in the history of this business.
Jeremy Borash: Any big plans for her Kevin?
Mark Madden: Oh, we both have big plans.
Jeremy Borash: Ah, that we can talk about on the air.
Kevin Nash: Yeah, I think she there's certain people that have amative ability and the key to this business is improvise, you have to be able to improvise and when you met somebody that's had acting classes and everything else and they come in and go ok, what are we doing here? And you go well we're really not sure just kind of play along with this and throw in your two cent when you can nine out of ten of those people look at you like you gotta be kidding man and they panic. She just kind of went "Ok."
Mark Madden: and they got her feet
Kevin Nash: Yeah, absolutely.
Mark Madden: Kevin, before we go.
Kevin Nash: They got her feet, they got her knees, whatever.
Mark Madden: OH
Kevin Nash: I think it'll make the air.
Mark Madden: Let's go back to the phone lines before we wrap things up.
Kevin Nash, our guest here on WCW live. Let's go now to Tony in Annapolis.
Tony you're on with Big Sexy.
Tony: Yeah, I was just wondering what plans there are for the tag team division. It seems like most of the tag teams aren't really stable. Like they won't be a team still in two months.
Mark Madden: All right Tony thanks for your call.
Kevin Nash: Help me out here, I couldn't hear him.
Mark Madden: What do you thing of tag teams in the situations in WCW right now or lack there of as far as tag teams go?
Kevin Nash: We tried to put some tag teams together and tried to have a tag team. Tag team wrestling as a kid was one of my favorite things to watch. I think there's a place for tag team wrestling. I just, I think that the people got spoiled I think Scott and I, I think we set the bar too high. So it looks like Scott and I will have to get back together and set the bar back up there and have the rest of the midgets chase us. Did I say that? What is it they call those guys, vanilla midgets? That's what they called them. That's what I heard I called them.
Mark Madden: Yeah, I heard you call them that. Malenko and Benoit.
Kevin Nash: I never have said that. That's like, vanilla midgets I mean I can't even... I mean that's so uncool, that's so un Kevin Nash.
Mark Madden: You could come up with something better than that couldn't you?
Kevin Nash: I would call them Shetland ponies since they're horsemen, or something like that.
Mark Madden: That's what I get at Baskin's Robbin's. I get a big order of vanilla midgets.
Kevin Nash: Yeah?
Jeremy Borash: Bob, what's going on in the chat room?
Bob Ryder: A couple of questions about Benoit and Malenko and what Kevin thinks their roll in the company is and what he wants to do with them.
Kevin Nash: I think Dean Malenko meant more for this company when he was a cruiser weight heel than he has since before then and since then. I think Dean's a great hand. I think Dean's one of the five best, Dean is one of those people that when you watch him work its so it's like watching someone that can really swim in a pool. You just watch him go up and back, up and back and you say, "God, it's so effortless for that person." And I think that his role is as a heel. I think that when the people give you your um, I guess your rating as being a baby face when you got a hot tag. He's got a hot tag on several occasions and it hasn't been there with the people yet. So, I mean. This is a situation where we do have time but I just don't feel that people are buying these guys as a tag. I think Benoit as a single, I think it hurts him to be in this tag. I think Benoit as a single. I think I could have a three match series with Benoit and have great matches with the guy and I wouldn't have a problem dropping a fall for him. But it isn't working out. I don't think that the horsemen, I think this is the weakest group of horsemen in the history of the horsemen. I don't see that in its current state that there's any validity or any drawing power to the horsemen as they are right now. I think Dean can rule in that cruiser weight thing and I don't know if that's what he wants to do. I'm sure nobody wants to be deemed a cruiser weight but a cruiser weight is 225 and below, it's not like their midgets, I mean it's something that he meant more there than he did in this role now and as far as Benoit, I'd like to have him and Scott and Booker, and maybe throw a couple of other guys in there for the US belt and get that thing going. I think they're both talented guys and as far as human beings, I think they're both great guys but as far as a tag team, I think Enos and Hugh Morris is a more formable looking tag team for people turning on the tv for the first time.
Jeremy Borash: Mark in our final moments I'll let you wrap this up with Kevin
Mark Madden: I have to tell something to Kevin Nash, we talked about earlier. Kev, This coming Sunday or Monday I forget what night Deli Boy's special about the American penis debut, remember we talked about that?
Kevin Nash: I saw the preview last night
Jeremy Borash: Isn't that amazing?
Mark Madden: Did you see a preview, he's sitting in an aluminum chair with no pants on.
Jeremy Borash: Do you think Chad's gonna watch that on a big screen tv just to make himself feel better? You know, I mean I'm just curious.
Kevin Nash: You know I think you guys say this and then you're gonna find his dead carcass somewhere and you're gonna say, you know what I didn't know that this whole HBO thing was a cry for help. So hey, back off you guys and I mean it man Deli Boy's a good cat.
Mark Madden: I think I speak for both Kevin Nash and myself when I say young Chad Damiani has the look, the size, the wrap. I smell money.
Kevin Nash: the look, the size, the wrap. I smell penis envy.
Jeremy Borash: Two different ways to end that one and I guess that we can't take it any further than that. Big Sexy Kevin Nash, thank you so much for joining us here today on WCW live, it's been a pleasure.
Kevin Nash: All right man.
Jeremy Borash: This is Jeremy Borash along with Mark Madden, Bob Ryder and of course, wow what an interview with Big Sexy Kevin Nash. Any surprises from that Mark or Bob, right off the bat?
Mark Madden: No, I think Kev was very honest but he always is. And I didn't disagree with anything he said in terms of evaluations of people. I mean I just thought of one thing right now that I wanted to ask him about, Steve McMichael because we haven't seen him in so long. But I think there will be a horsemen despite you know maybe Kevin maybe hinting otherwise. I think he feels they need regrouped a little bit.
Jeremy Borash: Bob, your final thoughts.
Bob Ryder: Well I that that kind of interview is what this show is gonna be all about. It's gonna give fans a chance to hear something that they haven't heard before. To hear it directly from the source and to get the information that they want and I think that this is the kind of thing that gonna put us on the map.
Jeremy Borash: This show is quickly turning into the definitive news source as far as the Internet goes. A lot of people talking about that. Mark you know as far as Kevin Nash's plans, you know you talk to him on a regular basis. Anything that threw you for a curve on this last interview?
Mark Madden: Not really. No, not really, you know Kevin's plans are always works in process, you know what I mean. I think he kind of adjusts with the turf and with the way the fans react and I think that's a good idea. Let's not forget that WWF caught WCW based on letting their fans pick on who they like and who they didn't like. And they picked up the fans intuitions and ran with it. I think Kevin is kind of taking note of that and you know WCW fans will go a long way in determining the direction of this promotion. I really do believe that under Kevin Nash.
Jeremy Borash: Bob, what do you think of that?
Bob Ryder: I think it's a good point and I think that this show is gonna help in that regard. I think that the Internet is full of people that want to have an opportunity to make their voice heard and this show is letting them do that.
Jeremy Borash: Guys thank you so much it's been a pleasure.
Mark Madden: No, no thank you

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